I have been working as a film journalist since 2010, dividing the first four years between radio broadcasting and entertainment writing in the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex. In 2014, I entered Fresh Fiction (FreshFiction.tv) as the features editor. The following year, I stepped into the film critic position at the Denton Record-Chronicle, a daily North Texas print publication. My time is dedicated to writing theatrical film reviews, at-home entertainment columns, and conducting interviews with on-screen talent and filmmakers, as well as hosting a podcast devoted to genre filmmaking (called My Bloody Podcast). I've been married for seven happy years, and I have one son who is all about dinosaurs just like his dad.
The road got a little windy last season, where JUSTIFIED was off its game, despite a few good episodes here and there. The latest season, however, is off to a good start and back on track.
The season opener last night was hardly the best of the series (especially with the death of a lovable character), but things heat up as the series progresses. Just around the third episode is when things really start cooking. Directing its third episode is UNT alumnus Peter Weller, who is probably best known for donning the original armored suit in 1987’s ROBOCOP.
Weller wears his Mean Green hat proud (literally below), directing some of the most intense episodes of television shows around. We caught up with Dr. Weller and discussed his last episode of SONS OF ANARCHY, his gripping episode of JUSTIFIED and the blast that is HAWAII FIVE-O.
I want to talk about a few of your projects, but I want to first focus on your last episode of SONS OF ANARCHY now that I’ve had time to digest the series as whole. Last time we talked I had watched episode 9, which you directed, and the following episode. You were right about episode 11; it did reveal all. I found it to be the best episode of the series, and I am not just saying that.
Weller: “Ah, I appreciate that, man. It’s one of the better things I’ve ever been involved with. So I really appreciate that, because it’s certainly a cornerstone in my life, that episode.”
So much builds up in that episode before all the ends are tied up.
To me, that is always the best part of a show or a film: that build up. And you have such patience as a filmmaker. You let scenes breath, and they feel natural. Scenes where you just have Juice (Theo Rossi) walking— it’s incredible. You carried that over into your episode of JUSTIFIED as well.
Weller: “I loved that episode, man. I wish I had done more of that show, but I didn’t have the time. Michael Dinner (executive producer) tried to fit me in earlier. But yeah, I really like that episode. I really love that show, JUSTIFIED.”
It’s a great show. I know you mentioned to me before that you don’t watch television all that much, unless it was to catch up on SONS or something like that. But when you’re directing episodes of JUSTIFIED or HAWAII FIVE-O, is it important to watch all the episodes up until that point? Or, is it better to go in with a fresh perspective and just go off of what’s at hand, like the script?
Weller: “When it’s serialized, like JUSTIFIED— a serialized arc, like what Timothy Olyphant has with Walton Goggins, then I will watch a lot of what that season brought forth. I did that with SONS, and I also do that with LONGMIRE. LONGMIRE does have the crime of the week, but they also got an arc going on with Walt (Robert Taylor) and his wife, just as Timothy has with Walton Goggins in JUSTIFIED. I will watch that stuff.
HAWAII FIVE-O, however, is another animal. I just had a blast with a couple of really phenomenal actors: Michael Imperioli of THE SOPRANOS, Greg Grunberg and Xzibit. With that you don’t have to go back and watch a lot of stuff. I went back to watch the two episodes before mine that introduced Grunberg and Xzibit’s character. So I will watch a couple of those, but I don’t have to catch up on it. I know the style of the show, so there’s nothing that I am really plugging into.
When I first directed HAWAII FIVE-0, I went back and watched a lot of the older HAWAII FIVE-0, which I’ve seen every episode of; I never missed an episode of that. So it depends on the show.”
Makes sense. I want to go back to JUSTIFIED and discuss your feelings about Walton Goggin’s character, Boyd. He’s the most interesting character to me, and I am sure that is the case for a lot of people. At the end of last season, season five, the show’s creator, Graham Yost, set up Boyd to be the big bad for the newest season. Is there any difficulty for you setting him up that way when we kind of root for him? Is it similar to Jax Teller in a way?
Weller: “No, man. You can’t judge him. I can’t anyway. You got to be Cormac McCarthy with this thing, man. The beautiful thing about Cormac McCarthy is he doesn’t impose a morality on you. As my wife says, ‘the way McCarthy writes is he writes what men do.’ It’s both great and brutal at the same time. I can’t drag morality into it. The second you do, you tip the scales.
With something as good as Elmore Leonard (the writer of the books JUSTIFIED is based on) and Kurt Sutter (SONS creator) has done— they’re going to pay the piper on their own. They’re going to pay their own existential piper. They just got to tell a story. With those guys, those writers, the second you slant it, you’re kowtowing, playing down to, or winking at an audience whom you wish will understand the difference between good and evil. You don’t have to do that, man. The audience will understand it; you don’t have to sell them short. I do not do that at all— I don’t moralize with the show.”
Do you ever think you’ll make the jump back to features, directing them?
Weller: “Yes, I do. I just talked to people about another feature, but who knows if it is the right feature. If it’s not the right feature- I don’t know. You know, I’d like to, but it depends on the feature.”
What projects do you have in the pipeline now?
Weller: “I’m doing a show on TNT called THE LAST SHIP, which is really taking off; it’s a smart show. It’s nine books about an apocalypse. With Ebola all out and about, the show is really taking off. After that I go down to Shreveport to work with my friend Jon Paré, who’s the line producer of SONS. He’s running this show, Fox 21’s SALEM. A lot of the same execs from SONS are on that show. I haven’t seen SALEM, but because those are friends who asked me to do it, I am definitely going to do it. Then I go back to Steven Spielberg’s show, UNDER THE DOME. Then I come back here to Santa Fe and LA to work on LONGMIRE – now picked up by Netflix, which is great – and teach a class at [University of California, Los Angeles] called Directing Actors for Film. And then as soon as that is all over, I go off to FX to do TYRANT.“
That’s an awesome lineup!
Weller: “Yeah. After that, I don’t know what the hell I am doing.”
I think you would be great to direct FARGO for FX.
Weller: “Oh, yeah. Are they extending FARGO?”
Yeah, they got a second season. Have you seen any of the first season?
Weller: “I haven’t.”
I think you would get a kick out of it. Knowing you, I think you would really enjoy it. It’s got all this symbolism and hidden meanings I think you would find fascinating. They’re doing that whole AMERICAN HORROR STORY / TRUE DETECTIVE thing where it’s a different cast and time but still continuing the arc.
Weller: “Nothing is better than TRUE DETECTIVE. I watched that in a marathon on New Year’s Eve. I have a place there in Louisiana, around where they filmed it. That’s about as good as television gets.”
You could do season two of that.
Weller: “Yeah, I don’t know whether they booked that or not. That HBO crowd is a different crowd.”
I bet. Oh! I almost forgot to ask about the music in your episode of SONS. In episode 11 there is jazz music playing in the Dodge Challenger that Jax steals. Was that your call?
Weller: “Yeah. Bob Thiele Jr. and I, yeah.”
Was that a shout-out to the University of North Texas?
Weller: “Yeah, yeah. That’s right. Bob Thiele, the music supervisor and one of my oldest friends— we were at Miles Davis’ last concert together. We went backstage. His dad produced John Coltrane. So Bob and I go way back with jazz.”
That’s really cool. Well, as always, than you, Peter. Your time is always appreciated. And good luck with all your upcoming projects. I look forward to them.
Weller: “Thank you, brother. Peace.”
JUSTIFIED airs on Wednesday at 10 p.m. E/P, 9 p.m. CT. You can catch Weller’s episode on Feb. 3.